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Post by buzzy on Dec 20, 2014 10:34:21 GMT
I have been using Panda antivirus for some time now and it seems to work well. However, periodically I am getting a Popup image asking if I wish to update the program and I have no idea how to stop this despite having a Popup blocker in my browser.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by jojo on Dec 20, 2014 10:53:35 GMT
I had Panda AV for a while and dumped it for this very reason.
To be fair, most of the AV companies are trying things like that now. Even Zone Alarm is making life difficult occasionally, but nothing compared to Panda.
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Post by buzzy on Dec 20, 2014 11:49:09 GMT
Thanks Jojo, I agree with your comments and some web browsers are irritating in the extreme with continuous Popups and updates and so forth - it takes all sorts to keep everyone happy (and busy) perhaps best if I don't elaborate lest I upset any members.
I have given up on several A/V programs for shall we say "intrusions" and it is only recently the Panda thing has started to occur, it is not as bad as some others, so if there is no way of stopping this then clicking it off is no real hardship I guess.
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Post by Lynnrose on Dec 20, 2014 11:54:53 GMT
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Post by buzzy on Dec 20, 2014 12:30:22 GMT
Tried that, cannot find the "Services Tab"
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Post by jojo on Dec 20, 2014 12:41:42 GMT
I will also add that these sort of solutions are simply not good enough.
They cause frustration and annoyance to experience users, like wot we all is, but for the less experienced users, they are next to useless.
My sister-in-law is a pretty smart person who, having retired, lives an outrageously busy life, caring for young kids, going out to social events and anything else that she can fit it. (Annoying 'int it?)
She wants to turn on her computer, read her emails, log into skype to tell my wife about what's she's been up to then go. I'd say, a pretty average user.
Currently her PC is almost unusable because of the plethora of downloads from M$ and others. She lacks the knowledge or interest of PCs to know how to turn off updates.
The whole industry is being drowned in a sea of scams.
There seems to be little interest in Home Users, but for companies, many of whom don't employ a computer admin tech, I should think things are getting pretty bad.
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Post by johnnybee on Dec 21, 2014 21:51:50 GMT
I'm still using AVG on my rigs, with MBAM as a backup scanner for anything that slides past the net; however even AVG has started using popups to self-promote or coerce the user towards the 'paid' version. The one good thing is that you can still control which functions are enabled, and also the "feature notification warnings" - AKA nag boxes - are controllable.
I guess that's the way of the (commercial) world these days, but it's a bit strange to see update facilities on programmes like CCleaner, CPU-Z and PC Wizard; maybe I'm missing something, but surely the component parts of a system aren't likely to change from one week to another?
One of life's imponderables!
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Post by jojo on Dec 21, 2014 23:33:39 GMT
I use ZA on XP and Avast on W7.
My wife's machine is W7 and last night, ZA demanded some updates. When she tried, it repeatedly stopped saying there was a fault with the download. I suggested she turn the machine off and on again. But sadly, after that her net access was completely blocked.
I eventually removed ZA and installed Avast.
Seriously though, if I hadn't been there, she wouldn't have known what to do. This sort of thing just isn't good enough, yet ZA and others are trying so hard to make money after giving out their software free in a desperate attempt to attract business.
It's been a while now, but I seem to recall I got rid of AVG because it was slowing internet access or something.
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Post by johnnybee on Dec 23, 2014 21:57:25 GMT
Just a liddle question for you, Jojo; I'm presuming you're on broadband and you're using a wireless router to feed your terminals?
If that's the case and you're using wireless, it might pay you to use Cat5 cabling from the router to the PC's; that way the router acts as a firewall, and nobody can hack into your network via the wireless facility.
No need then for any software firewall, unnecessary bloat or any troublesome updates; my systems are all connected this way, and I haven't had any trouble at all in seven years.
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Post by vikingken on Dec 24, 2014 0:10:09 GMT
Panda runs in the Cloud and doesn't put any strain on the computer. I've used it pretty much since it came out. I also use a hardware firewall, Panda has a firewall that I've never used. The AV works fine and I have never had any bother.
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Post by jojo on Dec 24, 2014 10:58:03 GMT
Just a liddle question for you, Jojo; I'm presuming you're on broadband and you're using a wireless router to feed your terminals? If that's the case and you're using wireless, it might pay you to use Cat5 cabling from the router to the PC's; that way the router acts as a firewall, and nobody can hack into your network via the wireless facility. No need then for any software firewall, unnecessary bloat or any troublesome updates; my systems are all connected this way, and I haven't had any trouble at all in seven years. Thanks Johnnybee As it happens that tip was first given to me, by someone on CIT, I think it was at least 10 years ago, back when I still used a laptop. It's worth saying again of course. I'm pretty sure that the same hardware firewall will also act on behalf of authorised wireless signals as well. That may be dependent on the router. Mine was provided by Virgin. I generally check the integrity of firewalls using Gibson Research's ShieldUp. |
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Post by vikingken on Dec 24, 2014 13:58:10 GMT
The firewall will protect the wireless as well as cabled computers from intrusion from the internet. The wireless side is open to cracking without going through the internet. The same reason that makes free wireless hotspots so dangerous, its not the internet you need to be concerned about.
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Post by jojo on Dec 24, 2014 15:12:57 GMT
I understand that ken, but the signal on mine isn't very strong and because the wireless modem came as standard with our package, I keep an occasional eye on connections anyway. Though it has to be pointed out that the sort of hacking which anyone would do with a wireless internet connection is kinda limited. The most anyone could reasonably expect to achieve is discovering the balance of my bank account, (I'll save them the bother it's approximately £0.00) or hijacking my online identity and perhaps taking credit for the extraordinary output of sparkling wit I manage to churn out over the years. Hijackers are, in themselves, of little interest to me. Any secrets I have are little more than those shared by most poeple. Frankly I've long since stopped being worried that anyone might find out this or that, I generally tell them anyway. The problem with hijacking is their software rarely works and uses up bandwidth. It can also lead to crashing. I know a farmer who said he'd be quite happy if the Foxes only took the occasional chicken, but one fox will kill as many hens as it can before making off with one. I feel the same way about hijackers. If they didn't invariably leave such a mess, I wouldn't bother. The main advantage I get from the wired connection is the speed. But as I tried to make the point for in another thread, the standard protection software isn't working very well now and looks likely to fail quite spectacularly in the near future. The only viable options I can see are dedicated OSs, such as the planned OS for Steam. Or a two or three tier internet, with the highest levels of security on one tier. But think about it, there was a time when the whole concept of an Internet was a pipedream. Do you remember The Gnome At Home back in the 80s?  Addition. Just did a quick Google and guess what?: everything2.com/title/The+Gnome+at+Home |
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Post by vikingken on Dec 24, 2014 18:31:11 GMT
My wireless network is so secure, some of the time I cant get into it myself.
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