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Post by alexham36 on Nov 18, 2013 23:01:36 GMT
I spent several hours trying to install PCLinuxKDE-OS onto an 8GB USB stick. I managed it after several failures, but it proved disappointing. It refused to let me configure the desktop, so the keyboard and "locale" had to be inputted on each bootup. It would not let me change the password, nor install a printer, because CUPS demanded a password and neither the root nor guest were acceptable.
It has an excellent Control Centre when it comes to managing the partitions, so I used that to reformat the USB back to NTFS and thus save it for other uses in Windows.
Very disappointing, because the OS has many good features, but when the basics do not work one has to cut ones losses.
Alex
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Post by mikkh on Nov 19, 2013 9:12:20 GMT
I don't think all distros are suited to USB installation and a lot are not true installs, just a mirror image of the live CD/DVD that can be booted from USB. Even the versatile Puppy can suffer from this and of the handful of Puppy variants I've tried, only one behaved as I expected after being installed to USB. I personally wouldn't even attempt to do a KDE based one because it's the most resource hungry of all Linux window managers and USB booting can be very slow. www.maketecheasier.com/persistent-live-usb-vs-full-install-usb/
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Post by vikingken on Nov 19, 2013 13:27:04 GMT
If you have got a USB3 port that is BIOS enabled and not OS enabled; as the first ones were, you could use a USB3 flash drive. That in theory at least, would give you a connection as fast as SATA III. You could run anything you like off it, as long as its big enough to do the job.
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Post by johnnybee on Nov 20, 2013 1:40:12 GMT
Okay, at the risk of making myself look a right knob, could I ask when USB sticks became USB3 compliant and where I can get one from? This "new" - well, maybe not quite so new - M4A Asus board has two USB3 ports that I haven't used yet, as I only got hold of the drivers for them yesterday. Another question on the same topic; I understand that the USB3 standard follows the usual pattern of doubling the previous transfer rates (480Mb/S to 960Mb/S?) but can the standard USB hubs be used in USB3 systems? I need a new one anyway - the existing unit is now getting fragile - but I don't want to buy something I can't use! That's me, I'm done - way past my bedtime now - goodnight and God bless!
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Post by vikingken on Nov 20, 2013 4:44:22 GMT
USB3 flash drives are very new, but you can get them on Amazon and most electronic outlets now John. They are not very cheap yet compared to USB2. USB3 is not twice as fast as USB2, its faster than eSATA. A USB3 flash is pretty much the same as having an internal SSD and the price isnt much different. I've had a USB3 dock ever since it came out and run 3.5" and 2.5" HDDs in it. USB3 isn't bootable on my desktop and I have eSATA docks if I need to boot in an emergency, but USB3 is great for fast backup.
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Post by alexham36 on Nov 20, 2013 14:42:47 GMT
I don't think all distros are suited to USB installation and a lot are not true installs, just a mirror image of the live CD/DVD that can be booted from USB. Even the versatile Puppy can suffer from this and of the handful of Puppy variants I've tried, only one behaved as I expected after being installed to USB. I personally wouldn't even attempt to do a KDE based one because it's the most resource hungry of all Linux window managers and USB booting can be very slow. www.maketecheasier.com/persistent-live-usb-vs-full-install-usb/A pity that I did not know that before I embarked on installing onto an USB. But you are quite right, as always, because I have PCLinuxOS-KDE on a 10GB IDE HD (1988) without any problems. The interesting bit is that it was installed from the same DVD that I used to intall onto a USB.
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Post by johnnybee on Nov 21, 2013 1:25:47 GMT
Ta for the rundown, Ken - appreciate it. The main reason I asked is that this board is the first one I've had that is bootable from demountable devices, which makes things so much easier in lots of ways. As you know, I love playing with alternative OS's, so having the ability to do a clean install from a flash drive is gonna be very useful. Thanks, mate!
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Post by vikingken on Nov 21, 2013 15:29:48 GMT
Your welcome John. I've been using it since just about the beginning, but I dont like flash drives and avoid using them if I can.
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Post by mikkh on Nov 23, 2013 0:29:59 GMT
Flicking through some back issues of MicroMart, I came across this..... linuxliveusb.com/en/homeJust had a look on their site to check if it still exists and has a latest version - it does I haven't used it myself, mostly because it's Windows only, but it looks interesting and got a good write up in the magazine.
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