PaleMoon

[jojo]

IE is so slow.

Chrome is fast but keeps finding sites that simply don't work. Mostly those which use graphics and some videos.

Firefox is really good, but crashes a lot.

A short while ago, someone put me onto www.palemoon.org/

No major frills. Fast. Never crashed so far. Couple of times, when I've closed it, then tried to open another window, almost immediately, it has returned an error saying it it still running. But easily sorted by closing the latest attempt.

To be fair, it is probably some process on my machine that's doing that.

If you need a decent browser, this one is worth a try.

[Lynnrose]

Hi Jojo, nice to see you!
Thanks for that information. I have never heard of that browser, handy to know

[buzzy]

I have been using Maxthon 3 browser for a long time and find it great, reliable, easy to use, and can be synchronised across multiple computers. Why not give it a try!!

www.favbrowser.com/maxthon-3-review/

[johnnybee]

I have to say it does look good, however I'd like to know which of the functions have been disabled to allow the increase in speed and reliability - I'd probably never need any of 'em, but it would be nice to know before installing it.
I might give it a go anyways, just for the experience!

[jojo]

Jan 29, 2013 17:02:19 GMT johnnybee said:

I have to say it does look good, however I'd like to know which of the functions have been disabled to allow the increase in speed and reliability - I'd probably never need any of 'em, but it would be nice to know before installing it.
I might give it a go anyways, just for the experience!

The following features have been disabled by design:

Accessibility features. Most people don't have a need for accessibility features. This cuts down some on the input complexity, and increases speed, but will, obviously, not be suitable for people who need these features.
Parental controls. Pale Moon aims to be a fast browser for general use, not a "secured family browser". The design impact of parental controls as introduced in Firefox 3.0 and later is significant, and has had serious implications for building the browser. As such, parental controls have been disabled.
Maintenance service. Pale Moon does not use the Windows maintenance service and does not update silently in the background.
Integrated PDF reader. The code for this is still included for emergencies (i.e. when you need to read a PDF but don't have access to a reader) but disabled by default - you are always recommended to use a separate, up-to-date document reader for PDF files for your own security.
Web development tools. Most users will never need these tools, and they can cause unnecessary resource use if enabled.
A few miscellaneous things like the crashreporter, since they require server-side components that are not in place at palemoon.org.

On the matter of PDF reader, mine, Foxit, integrates seemlessly into Pale Moon.

As I said it's worth a try. I kept Firefox and IE for a while. Now I just have IE, but that's mainly because MSN seems to open it by default. I don't want to risk loosing accessabilty.

[johnnybee]

Thanks for that, Jojo; I was going to install it on this W7 installation as a secondary browser, but having spoken to an old Navy mate of mine recently, I've decided to integrate it into the latest Sabayon Linux distro (KDE based) which I'm going to install on my old XP2700+ rig.
It seems to make more sense to keep open-source apps under the umbrella of open-source OS's, rather than try to make them work properly under a windows environment.
As you say, Windoze and M$ have their own persona, and mixing M$ stuff with Linux is a bit like trying to make black ink with olive oil!
Tek care, M8!

[vikingken]

I tried it on Windows 7 Pro and didn't like it. With this silly changeover to version 5 on Proboards, I will probably have to start writing code again. When the time comes I will install the proper Firefox again. I dont install anything I dont need, but when I do I want to know it works. Firefox built NHI, I'm sure it will do a fine job when the time comes and then it will disappear into the ether until I need it again. I have been looking forward to someone producing a browser that is simply that and nothing more. Pale Moon looked like something near to that, but it just couldn't cut it on Windows 7 Pro x 64. At some point I might try it on my netbook; which is also Windows 7 Pro, but the x 86 version. It will probably work well on Linux, but Linux seems to have a good choice of browsers already.

[johnnybee]

So what did it fail the test on then, Ken?
As I said, I was gonna try it on Sabayon to see how it went, but if it's gonna be a nobrainer then I won't bother.
Hincidentally, WTFD between W7Pro and W7 Ultimate - any ideas?

[vikingken]

It was iffy John. It seemed to be working lovely one minute and would grind to a halt the next. Then it kept wanting to install addons which it didn't really need. There might be a way to stop it looking for addons, but I dont know enough about Firefox to stop it. I lost interest because IE9 works great with all the security turned off. I was using Chrome for Virgin website and Nottingham City Council website. Since upgrading to IE9, I no longer need that either and both websites seem to work OK.

The difference between Pro and Ultimate is the price. They both have full encryption for online networking and thats as much as most people need. Ultimate has the language pack and Pro doesn't, I prefer Pro as it has less Updates. I will probably change this one from Ultimate to Pro in the near future. There are a few other bits and bobs that a big multinational might use, but I cant remember what they are. Since I sold most of my oil wells and some of my merchant banks, I cant be bothered to find out. I even run Pro on my mini netbook. It came with Starter, I tried it with Home and settled for Pro. You can home network with Home, but having full encryption makes things so much easier and I can get into my servers from anywhere. What I will do is install a Paragon image of my Laptop on to this one and just change the Key number. I will have to install all the drivers again, but the whole job should only take about an hour and I will have all my programs installed. I think I have everything on my laptop that I use on here. In fact there are a couple of portable bits that can be taken out. Once its all set up as I want it, I can run a Windows Repair to get it clean.

[johnnybee]

Ta, Ken - now I'm on W7 on this one I might just give IE9 a try and see how it goes.
I've just reformatted a Maxtor 320Gb SATA HDD that I robbed from my Multimedia PC, so that I can install it in this one for the Linux OS.
I found a couple of very useful antivibration mounts as well for the basket - they come as standard with some washing machine controller boxes - so not only will the basket stand off from the case floor for air circulation, they'll cut out any noise and vibration from the drive iteslf.
What a bonus!