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Post by buzzy on Apr 27, 2009 10:54:02 GMT
Communications companies are being asked to record all internet contacts between people to modernise police surveillance tactics in the UK. The new system would track all e-mails, phone calls and internet use, including visits to social network sites. [color= source: Here
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Post by Angelstardust on Apr 27, 2009 20:38:15 GMT
Another step towards a complete police state.
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Post by mikkh on Apr 28, 2009 8:34:43 GMT
I see no problem in that, if it catches one terrorist - it's worth it
Bleeding heart liberals live in a fantasy world of cream teas and polite clapping at cricket matches
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Post by ken on Apr 28, 2009 8:41:48 GMT
They will have to import another 20 million, speed reading, multilingual, code breaking immigrants, just to half way read through it all. It would be easier to say the rest of the world is now part of the British Isles, entitled to all benefits and protection without let or hinderance.
KC
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Post by buzzy on Apr 28, 2009 8:47:30 GMT
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Post by ken on Apr 28, 2009 10:09:27 GMT
Looks about right Buzzy, although Scandinavia will probably be the North Indies by then.
KC
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Post by captainbrittles on Apr 28, 2009 16:14:12 GMT
I see no problem in that, if it catches one terrorist - it's worth it
Bleeding heart liberals live in a fantasy world of cream teas and polite clapping at cricket matches You'd be happy with the police and MI5 reading your letters before they drop through your letter box as well then? And as far as catching one terrorist is concerned look at the abysmal record both MI5 and the police have in proving anything against the 'suspects' they have arrested in recent months. You might be next. |
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Post by ken on Apr 28, 2009 16:43:22 GMT
They are welcome to read all my mail, as long as they pay the bottom line. They can arrest me any time they like. I haven't done anything wrong, so I have got no reason to fear them. I was born here from a long line of English born citizens, but not even I stand outside of a mosque spouting death to anybody who dont agree with me. Anyway these day as long as your not British, you will probably get a lot of money from being wrongfully arrested. We shouldn't have to change our laws to suit foreign sensibilities, if they dont like it here they can bugger off back where they came from. These political asylum seekers shouldn't be living in hotels at our expense either. They should be living in tents behind razor wire, until their claims are processed. If they dont qualify, send um straight back in chains. Thats the same treatment we would get under the same circumstances, in their countries and it cuts both ways in my book.
KC
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Post by captainbrittles on Apr 28, 2009 22:20:42 GMT
Monitoring people's correspondence is state surveillance of each one of us as citizens, it is a invasion of privacy, a serious erosion of our liberties and flies in the face of what my father fought for in 1939-45.
No government implemented such draconian measures during the war against Irish terrorism, no mass phone tapping, no opening of the post. Why start now ? Because the dumb folk will turn the other cheek? The security services have plenty of means of combatting terrorism - reading my emails or anyone elses is not needed.
This tired excuse of 'If your not breaking the law you have nothing to worry about' is so bloody stupid, you people want to wake before its too late.
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Post by ken on Apr 29, 2009 7:31:18 GMT
Police have been tapping phones ever since they were invented, nobody ever made an issue out of it before. All this fuss about not wanting to carry an ID card. I had to carry one most of my life and never found it painful. Europeans can just come over here on their ID cards; but we have to pay through the nose for a passport, just to go on a day trip the other side. The only thing I think is wrong, if we have to have them they should be issued free. What my old man fought for; isnt what we have got now, we are not allowed to say we are proud to be British. That implies your white, and only blacks can say they are proud to be anything that comes into their heads. We haven't got any rights anymore, so why worry about anything else they can come up with. It only affects the enemy, as they are the only ones with rights.
KC
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Post by captainbrittles on Apr 29, 2009 21:34:08 GMT
Police might well have been tapping phones for years but they have to get a warrant to do so, there are, technically at least legal safeguards and such phone tapping has been selective based on reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
These new laws are aimed at every citizen of the United Kingdom - even grannies and school children. It is mass surveillance of a type practised by the Nazis and Stalin and if we allow it we'll end up like East Germany or North Korea.
The police have been making a huge bid for covert powers ever since the London bombings and what other country takes a DNA sample for riding a bicycle on the pavement?
I suspect your views are more of anti foreigner type than a love of a police state.
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Post by ken on Apr 30, 2009 13:49:56 GMT
I would love to have a police state. Then we could slap all the whinging whining do gooders up against a wall and blow them away, along with all the scum that they try to protect.
KC
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Post by phoney on Apr 30, 2009 15:15:36 GMT
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Post by captainbrittles on Apr 30, 2009 22:02:19 GMT
I would love to have a police state. Then we could slap all the whinging whining do gooders up against a wall and blow them away, along with all the scum that they try to protect. KC Emigrate to North korea, you'd fit in well.  |
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Post by ken on Apr 30, 2009 23:42:29 GMT
I'm sure I would, but I want utopia in my own country.
KC
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Post by captainbrittles on May 1, 2009 21:27:08 GMT
I'm sure I would, but I want utopia in my own country. KC Thank god you're well outnumbered by sensible people. |
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