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Post by tuesdaymine on May 11, 2009 8:54:34 GMT
I'm now able to transfer all my old VHS tapes onto disc's. Tapes are from my old camcorder.
Tapes are 2,3 & 4 hr long.
Can i purchase disc's that will record my tapes with out using long play on system ?
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Post by jackhackett on May 11, 2009 10:37:29 GMT
Long play only applies to cassette tapes. What happened is that the tape went through at half the speed thus making a 2hr tape last 4hrs
Digital recording is limited to the amount of data that can be stored on the media. There is NO long/short play. However what you can do is compress your data so that you can get more on.
Direct answer to your question is NO, theres no such thing
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Post by ken on May 11, 2009 12:25:18 GMT
There are burning programs that will split your films to allow you to put them on 2 or even more disks Tuesday. I think you will find if you download the tape to the hard drive and then convert the movie to DVD format to play on any DVD player, the compression involved is enough to make them fit on a DVD. Quality might might not be very good though.
KC
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Post by tuesdaymine on May 11, 2009 13:48:44 GMT
I purchased a Multi Regional Panasonic Recorder, so i can transfer tapes to disc.
I did a test putting a 2 hr tape onto a 120min disc, and it was very easy even for a thicko like myself.
But wanted help in the disc size i can buy.....which will allow me to put my 3-4 hr tapes on to, with out using the LP option they give me.
Is there a 120min disc that once the one side is full i can turn over and just repeat process on other side ( back )
Thanks for helping me Tuesday
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Post by jackhackett on May 12, 2009 12:24:57 GMT
Is there a 120min disc that once the one side is full i can turn over and just repeat process on other side ( back ) NO, discs only use ONE side
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Post by ken on May 12, 2009 23:28:49 GMT
I dont know how these machines work, but I can tell you about disks. For a DVD to work on any machine, it has to be started and finished. This in itself uses some of the space up, so you cant use the full amount. If you have an extra long movie on a hard drive, there are programs that will split the movie and burn it onto 2 finished disks. Then you can watch the movie in 2 parts. There must be something on these machines that tells you when a disk is getting full and it needs the rest of the disk to finish it. Surely they dont just fill a disk up and then tell you its just ruined a disk. All you have to do is stop the movie when the disk is full, let it finish it and then burn the rest of the movie to another disk. Theres not a lot of difference in putting in the second part on another disk, than just turning the grammy phone record over and you wont have to change the needle.
KC
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Post by nike on May 12, 2009 23:57:40 GMT
If you have a DVD-Ram drive, then you can record up to 120 minutes of video onto a dual layer DVD-Ram disc.
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Post by ken on May 13, 2009 0:39:08 GMT
Mine is an old analog machine Kev that records from the TV and it comes up on the TV when the disk is full. I can then stop the tape, while the machine finishes the disk. After it has ejected the disk and I've put another one in, I start the tape again and push record. I'm sure these new digital machine, must have a similar system. Mine takes a bit of time to record, but it does the job. I can do a direct tape to disk burn, but I have never tried to do it that way. I'm never in that much of a hurry.
KC
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Post by tuesdaymine on May 13, 2009 11:49:51 GMT
Thanks for all your help.
Have lots of old (sp) 3hrs VHS tapes, which i can now transfer onto disc's, but disc are only 120mins Tapes are of the family i took with my camcorder.
What is a dual layer DVD-Ram disc ?
I've been told to buy 3hr Disc's.
If i can, where do i get them from?
Sorry if i sound thick but i really am very new to all this.
Tuesday
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Post by movieman36 on May 15, 2009 7:24:33 GMT
You don't need to use RAM discs and would do you a lot of good anyway as many stand alone DVD player don't like RAM discs. You can burn Dual Layer DVD's just like a normal DVD in your computer if of course you have a DVD burner capable of burning dual layer. Most modern burners (last couple of years) will do so. You also need DVD authoring software that allows dual layer burning.
You can buy a dual layer capable DVD burner for about £25 from places like APR media and you will need dual layer discs (quite a bit more expensive than the single layer std version). Your computer needs to be able to support the newer drive which basically means you will need to connect it via a 80 strand IDE cable to enable the higher burn speeds.
As for software, one of the easiest and cheapest DVD authoring solutions and produces good results is ULead DVD movie factory which amongst other things supports dual layer discs.
The other thing you then have to address is how to get your analogue tapes onto your computer?
MM
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Post by tuesdaymine on May 15, 2009 9:19:36 GMT
Hi MM I wont be using computer as my Reply 3 explains. I've successfully already transfered 2 hr tape to 120min disc and its perfect, but most of my old tapes are longer.
Used Panasonic DVD Ram 4.7,rewritable 2~3x speed....now this don't mean a darn thing to me all i know its works. Rewritable ones are not necessary.
Keep it simple for me please, can i buy longer (time) length disc that i can put my tapes onto? Thanks sooo much all of you, sorry to be a pain. X
Tuesday
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Post by ken on May 15, 2009 12:28:36 GMT
Panasonic DMR-EZ48VEBK Multi-region DVD/VCR Recorder If this is what you have got Tuesday, yes it will burn dual layer disks. All you need to do is go into a dual layer disk shop and tell them you want to buy some. Any place that sells blank DVDs should sell them, just make sure your getting dual layer. You would probably buy them cheaper online and I dont know what shops you have in your area. Look round a bit before you buy, but WH Smith sells them and you might get them cheap if they have a sale on. Maplins also sells them if you have a shop near you. KC
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Post by movieman36 on May 15, 2009 15:33:37 GMT
If you are burning via the Panasonic recorder, are you recording to hard drive first then onto DVD or recording straight onto DVD?
mm
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Post by movieman36 on May 15, 2009 15:38:09 GMT
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Post by tuesdaymine on May 15, 2009 22:27:02 GMT
Thank you all so much
KC.....I have Panasonic DMR-EZ47VEB, mine is silver thats why the code is differant ? we also have a Maplins. MM.....Recording straight onto DVD ....mm
Tuesday xx
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Post by ken on May 15, 2009 23:23:49 GMT
Must be this one then Tuesday, it records on just about anything. It looks like if you use Dual Layer and select EP it will record up to 8 hours. I dont think the quality would be very good though. You need to look up how long each each speed is and select the one you need with not a lot over, to get the best quality. Panasonic DMR-EZ47VEBS DVD Recorder / VCR Combo Key Features DVD Type DVD Recorder / VCR Combo Number of Discs 1 Progressive Scan With Progressive Scan Playable Disk Types DVD Video • VCD • SVCD • DVD-RAM • DVD-R • DVD-RW • DVD+R • DVD+RW • DVD Audio • CD (Audio) • CD-R • CD-RW • DVD-R DL • DVD+R DL Playable File Formats DivX • MP3 • JPEG Video TV Resolutions 480i • 480p • 576i • 576p Video Upconversion 1080p (HDTV) Video Output System PAL • NTSC Video Noise Reduction Block Noise Reduction Audio Surround Sound Dolby Digital (Digital out only) • DTS (Digital out only) Connections Inputs S-Video x 1 Outputs S-Video x 1, Component x 1, HDMI x 1, Digital Audio Optical x 1 Convenience Remote Control Standard OSD Yes Record and Play Fetaures One Touch Recording • Playlist Playback Recorder Recordable Media DVD-R • DVD+R • DVD-RW • DVD+RW • DVD-RAM • DVD-R DL • DVD+R DL Recording Speeds SP • XP • LP • EP DVD Recording Time 1 Hrs. Minimum / 8 Hrs. Maximum Dubbing VHS to DVD Recording Formats MPEG2 Programmable Timer EPG, 7 Days KC
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Post by movieman36 on May 16, 2009 16:38:12 GMT
I have a Panasonic hard drive DVD recorder also. For transferring old VHS stuff you could also record to the hard drive first then select a different quality setting to try and get more on each disc. the highest setting is XP but the original VHS quality will already be much lower than this.....its worth trying on a few Std DVd's first to find the quality setting that your happy with and gives you the longest time onto a disc.
MM
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Post by kubik8 on May 22, 2009 20:18:42 GMT
Is there a 120min disc that once the one side is full i can turn over and just repeat process on other side ( back ) NO, discs only use ONE side Not so. You can get double-sided DVD-RAM media. They can store up to 9.4GB of data. They are expensive though, and not really much use unless your writer is not dual-layer and you need to squeeze the maximum amount onto each disc. www.amazon.co.uk/TDK-Double-DVD-RAM-Rewritable-DVD/dp/B00009VFS7
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Post by ken on May 23, 2009 6:19:44 GMT
I dont see the advantage of using both sides of an expensive disk, or using 2 cheap disks. You still have to take them out and reinsert them. They are not going to flip themselves over. Any disk can only store so much DATA; so the more time you try to put on it, the quality has got to go out the window. The time they put on a disk is quality time, anything extra and quality is the price you pay.
KC
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Post by movieman36 on May 23, 2009 8:55:03 GMT
When sourcing from VHS originals I use 2 hours of source footage to a std 4.3 GB DVD as an absolute maximum. (Personally I try to keep all my DVD's to maximum 1 1/2 hours per disc, that's 3 hours onto dual layer).
As I said in previous post, you can record to hard drive first then make a decision on how much you want to compress than footage to squeeze it onto a disc. Only you can decide how low is acceptable on the quality front. You can test it onto a DVD ram disc as many times as you like until committing to a permanent burn to DVD.
MM
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Post by ken on May 23, 2009 9:16:45 GMT
( You can test it onto a DVD ram disc as many times as you like until committing to a permanent burn to DVD. )
That is a very good point you have made there MM. That is a great method, if your not sure of what to do. Nothing beats trial and error, if you have got the time.
KC
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