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Post by pgweston on Apr 8, 2009 7:40:21 GMT
Having Open Office isn't any help to me, because, try as I may, all I get is Openoffice.org 2. Error while printing.I checked the File 'Printer Set-up and I got the following! Printer/Name Photo_Printer_720. Status/ Default printer. Type/ CUPS:Photo_Printer_720 Location Comment/ Dell Photo Printer 720 I'm afraid that I can't go any further, what can I do to print something? Thank you for any help as long as it isn't too complicated. Westy.
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Post by mikkh on Apr 8, 2009 9:37:03 GMT
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Post by pgweston on Apr 8, 2009 19:26:42 GMT
Thanks mikkh, I copied and pasted the address into my Firefox browser and downloaded the package, It's on my desktop and there I am stuck. Tried a few things but I can't get any further, sorry to be nearly a beginner, you don't happen to know what I should do next ?
Regards....Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 9, 2009 15:29:31 GMT
First copy it from the desktop to your 'home' folder - you can't open a terminal window on the desktop, which you'll need to do later
Right click the file it should have, among the options 'extract' or 'extract here'
Once you've done that, you're ready for the next scary bit - using the command line/terminal
It has a read-me type file in there once you've extracted it, but if you get stuck give me a shout
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Post by pgweston on Apr 10, 2009 15:27:03 GMT
Wow! What a time I've had, been enjoying myself trying various ways to get the command line to run the file.
I copied and pasted the following command - sh z600cups-1.0-1.tar.gz.sh from the README text into the 'Command Line' and hit the Return key and up came "bash:-:command not found".
Tried and tried again, adding bits and taking off bits, but I knew I was wasting my time. I guess it's time to ask you for help mikkh. Regards....Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 10, 2009 20:53:37 GMT
Yes, I thought the placing of '-' before the command would lead to trouble, it shouldn't be there at all of course
Someone should get their wrist heavily slapped for that
The command is....
sh z600cups-1.0-1.tar.gz.sh
In Linux, you can complete almost any command by using the tab key, which is very useful with the often convoluted and seemingly meaningless file names used
so all you really need to type is...
sh z
(then reach for the tab key - and press it) hey presto, the whole command is there (then press return/enter to run it)
The only time you'll need to alter that approach, is when you have several files/programs starting (in this case) with Z (capital Z is just for emphasis btw - z is not the same as Z in Linux
You could also just use (as in MSDOS)
sh z*
(and press return/enter)
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Post by pgweston on Apr 11, 2009 13:56:25 GMT
Hi mikkh, I have tried again but no luck. I have uploaded a screen of the Terminal but I haven't enlarged it. You may be able to see that I tried a few things like leaving bits off and using 'sh z' or sh z*, and each time it finished with "Can't open". Hope to get there soon, but am enjoying the new learning curve Regards...Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 11, 2009 18:23:52 GMT
The command you're trying to run MUST be in the current folder/directory you're in - otherwise it just won't work whatever you type.
Confirm you're in the right place by typing...
ls
and press return of course - that's a lowercase L btw
If you don't see the file you're trying to run, you're not in the right place
I don't think you've mentioned which Linux you're using either, which is important
If it's an Ubuntu clone like Mint, or even Ubuntu itself, you need to add 'sudo' before each command
so the command would be....
sudo sh z
I tend to use non Ubuntu 'distros' myself, so it's only just occurred to me that you might need the 'sudo' addition
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Post by pgweston on Apr 12, 2009 20:23:42 GMT
Here I am again, I nearly got there. Command line asked for 'Password for Patrick', I typed it in but my typing was not not shown on the screen, and up came "cannot open sh Z " etc:
I am using Ubuntu, I think it's 'Damian', also using Firefox web Browser.
Regards......Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 12, 2009 23:48:29 GMT
The password is never shown - it's a security feature
you need to confirm you're in the right folder/directory by typing ...
ls
can you see the file in the list it brings up?
If you can't, you're not in the right place
try these commands....
cd /
that should change the directory to the root of the drive (there's a space after cd)
then type
cd home
that should place you in the folder where the users are ( type 'ls' to confirm that)
then type
cd ??
(where ? is the username - cd mikk in my case)
type 'ls' again to confirm you're in the right place and the file exists (no quotes obviously, and you need to hit return/enter after each command)
If you're in the right folder, it will work but you will need the 'sudo' bit because it's Ubuntu
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Post by pgweston on Apr 16, 2009 15:02:40 GMT
I'm not there yet!! Typed 'ls' and know that I can see the file, i get 'command not found'. Sometimes I see 'Password ?, but that isn't recognized. Having just spent another couple of hours trying all sorts combinations to tip the balance, I think that it's time I had a break and a nice cup of tea. Regards......Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 16, 2009 16:15:51 GMT
Mint lets you pick a 'root' password but Ubuntu doesn't
In fact 'root' doesn't exist in Ubuntu to all intents
When I did try Ubuntu, I used this method
Open terminal/console window
Type in .....
sudo passwd root
It should then ask for the password (to create, not your existing user one) - you can use the same one though to save time
You should then be asked to type it again (to confirm it)
Nothing will show on screen, so type carefully
You can then go to standard Linux procedure and use the following command
su
which, after you've supplied the password. will make you 'root'
..... and nothing can go wrong then !
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Post by pgweston on Apr 17, 2009 20:59:00 GMT
Hi mkkh, I expect you are wishing as much as I am, but I have successfully sorted the password as you have detailed and 'Password updated ok', but now I get "Can't open sudo sh z600cups-1.0-1.tar.gz.sh"
Yes the file is in my home folder, and with 'ls' it is all there for me to see., but now of course it says that it cannot open the file.
Can this file be out of date or something? Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 18, 2009 20:05:40 GMT
If you've now got working 'root' facilities 'sudo' becomes redundant
just use su to become root, then use the command without 'sudo'
You might want to investigate 'TurboPrint' to save your sanity. It's a commercial program, but it does work and is available on a 30 day trial
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Post by pgweston on Apr 24, 2009 14:17:06 GMT
Sad to say, I tried and tried to get the driver to work, it's so near and yet so far. Yes, I can now see a working root@my-desktop/ my#. I get either "Can't open" or "Bash: command not found. I wonder if any other member following this thread have managed to use this Z600cups thing? So I can't use Open Office or any other programs because of 'No Printer', so it's back to M/Soft for that type of work. Thanks mikkh for your patience and help. Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 24, 2009 20:55:47 GMT
Brand new version of Ubuntu released yesterday
It might be worth trying that
New version = new kernel = better hardware support
It depends how many other people are in the same boat as you
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Post by pgweston on Apr 27, 2009 19:54:07 GMT
I found the site for the upgrade, but I had to upgrade from 'Release 8.04 to 8.10 first, almost two hours in total, so yesterday I then upgraded to 9.04, the latest release.
No, I still can't get the z600cups-1.0-1.tar.gz.sh OPEN, the file on screen does not have 'tar'included in it's name, so I have tried omitting it , but the result is the same. "Can't open the file". I did however type a bit out on Open Office and saved it to my USB data file, also printed it out on MSoft Word:) Who knows what I might find next? Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 27, 2009 23:45:57 GMT
Looks like you're having lots of fun
I just tried it in Vector and it works fine, it should unzip to z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh when you extract it from the original download
I then ran the command sh z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh
which gave me the message "Uncompressing Lexmark Printer Drivertrap"
If you've extracted it correctly, it should work for you too - even in the dreaded Ubuntu
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Post by pgweston on Apr 29, 2009 15:27:36 GMT
mikkh, Have been trying and trying, the nearest I get to it being opened is "Verifying archive integrity...tail:" cannot open '+6' for reading. Of course I don't what that is, but I suspect that you might. (Hopefully, what next?) Regards....Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 29, 2009 20:33:04 GMT
I've never seen that, but I suspect it means a corrupt archive - try downloading it again
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Post by pgweston on Apr 30, 2009 20:05:04 GMT
So yes, I put the files in the bin and went through it all again, only to get "can't open z600cups" etc so I think that the best thing for me is to start again with something else like you earlier suggested, Linux Mint. The question now, is do I have to uninstall Ubuntu, or can I simply install Mint next to it? My hard drive is partitioned and has plenty of G/bytes to spare. Or do you think that this is a 'wee bit over the top?' Westy
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Post by mikkh on Apr 30, 2009 22:36:02 GMT
You can have several Linux's on one hard drive - I always have at least two different 'distros' installed - currently Vector and PClinuxOS
It depends how you installed Ubuntu though. If you did it 'wubi' style i.e it lives in a folder on a Windows partition, then no, you can only do that with one, and it should offer to uninstall the earlier one first
If you did 'for real' i.e it lives on a proper Linux partition, then yes you can do that - providing you make another Linux partition first
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