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Post by jojo on May 12, 2014 11:22:45 GMT
Dumped Chrome as an experiment. Now using Firefox. I can't log into CIT! I can log into Proboards, but when I try to post in their help- fourm I am asked to log in again and turned away. I asked to have my password reset, but when it sent the email, I clicked on that and it claimed they didn't recognise the email address!!!!!! I am on IE and feel so dirty  Help. I am pretty sure others use Firefox here. Love ya all. Needing a dialy fix of the jigsaw! |
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Post by buzzy on May 12, 2014 11:33:51 GMT
I am having a similar problem with Proboards with User Name and Password etc on my laptop but it works fine on IE11 there. I have no idea what is wrong. All is fine on my PC.
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Post by jojo on May 12, 2014 16:50:53 GMT
Had a look at Jigsaw with this IE, but it wants me to download Flash or somehting.
Anyway, I really don't want to spend too much time on IE, frankly I don't trust it.
Will check in every day. Hopefully whatever has gone wrong wth Proboards will be fixed.
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Post by Lynnrose on May 12, 2014 16:54:24 GMT
I am on Firefox and have no problems even with the Firefox update, think it was yesterday, version 29.0.1
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Post by Lynnrose on May 12, 2014 17:04:55 GMT
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Post by jojo on May 12, 2014 23:23:40 GMT
Thank you so much Lynnrose and buzzy for the reassurance.
The first suggestion, clearing the cashe, didn't work. The second, clearing the cookies did.
I recall, when I first ran Firefox, it loaded all my setting from Chrome. Seems it loaded some bad stuff. Something to remember if this happens again.
Incidently, the reason I've left Chrome and gone to Firefox is an experiemnt to hopefully deal with a recurrent crash I'm getting. Usually with COM+ errors.
Won't speak too soon, but will say more after a week and I can stop holding my breath!
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Post by Lynnrose on May 13, 2014 9:28:36 GMT
You're welcome  |
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Post by vikingken on May 16, 2014 1:09:44 GMT
I built NHI using Firefox, to change over to version 5 I done it with IE 11. I have used Chrome since we changed over to V.5, but not Firefox. To be quite honest I think your XP days are numbered. Verious people were offering workrounds using different browsers, this can only work for so long and your only prolonging the enevitable.
To go completely off track and take a Linux route, you would have to consult Mikk. I have an uneasy feeling that he might tell you the same thing, but you might prolong it for another 6 months or so. |
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Post by jojo on May 16, 2014 9:41:09 GMT
Thanks ken. I use XP because it's what I have on my machine. Windows 7 might work, but a licence is expensive and this machine is already old. I have tried Linux. Too much software doesn't run on it. It isn't intuitive and totally unforgiving of errors. The last time I tried it, I attempted to create a dual BOOT with an XP drive. It reformatted the XP drive, in Linux format, without any warning. Too many versions, none stable. That alone indicates there are serious problems with it. And there are. I fully intend to move to W7 when I can afford a new machine. I don't see any point in buying cheap. Upgrades are a nonsense. I will buy the best when I can afford it. I am not in the least convince that XPs days are particularly numbered. M$ made a public spectical of ending support, as a sales gimmic. it included a nasty piece of nonsense, downloaded pretending to be an end of service warning! I can get every update for XP, (and other machinesup to Feb) form a single .iso file: www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=41929When support ended for Win 98 and 95, it was simply an announcement. I know Win 95 was still in use in 2008, on old 286s. I also recall seeing Win98 in the main server room warehouse of the IBM HQ, N of Portsmouth. Working fine. (Did a short term contract there before I retired). I suspect the reasons for the hoohaa over XP is to boost sales. Once we pay for XP, it can be loaded an unlimited number of times and there is no profit in the Updates. My copy of Vista, for example, is now a coaster. The reason I moved to Firefox. I was having a repeated problem with my machine. It was crashing daily. it always started with windows becoming blank so I could see the desktop icons. Then the icons themselves returned errors, before becoming unresponsive. The only solution was a switch off and one again. The Event log listed a number of errors, usually based around COM+. Searches of the net, I discovered this happening to many others. But in every case, the reaction to their requests for support were either nothing, (which I had here), or suggestions based upon, perhaps it's this, or have you tried that. Finally, I traced the problem to Chrome. It seems to have been attempting to access the net once a day, presumably using protocols which XP doesn't have. (So much for backward comparability) I searched through Chrome's web site and all I could find were features telling me how wonderful it is. Not even a search box. I was also rather annoyed that Chrome bundles Google Wallet, YouTube and several updaters. I suspect these are the problems, but turning them off made no difference. Dumping Chrome and using Firefox, no more crashes. I doubt this is the end of troubles for XP users. I doubt it is even the beginning of the end. It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. edit 18:45 Spelled kin's name wrongly. Sorry kin!  |
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Post by mikkh on May 16, 2014 19:32:15 GMT
Re Linux:
'Too much software doesn't run on it....' I think you're forgetting that open source software like Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, VLC, Audacity (and dozens more) - all pretty well known to Windows users, actually started life as Linux programs and you wouldn't call them not intuitive. Even Chrome is essentially open source.
You're familiar with them and accept them. I think you're confusing the fact that because Firefox etc is available for both, then everything should be.
I've heard this Linux destroyed my Windows before, I'm sorry it just doesn't happen in a modern Linux - unless you tell it to. I did have a similar disaster over a decade ago, but I was warned it was a highly experimental version and to proceed with caution. In literally hundreds of installs after, it's never happened again and Linux always gives the option of keeping Windows in my experience.
There are lot's of versions, that's true - including the most widely used phone OS called Android, is that not stable? Over half of the internet's servers run..... wait for it - not Windows basically. I've been running PClinuxOS on a daily basis for longer than I can remember, I call that pretty stable too.
Linux has evolved a lot in the last 5 years or so and unfortunately it's no longer a light alternative to Windows, so trying to resurrect an XP machine is difficult if you want a full featured usable system. You'd be restricted to a handful of specialist ones like Puppy, which I find highly polished and pretty helpful myself, but I guess it's not for everyone
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Post by jojo on May 16, 2014 21:05:21 GMT
Understand mikkh. The software I was referring to are the various online games I waste my time on. The problems with Linux are simply that it's various processes and procedures are not particularly clear, ie not intuitive. Load a program on windows, a, b, c, d. Once learnt, known. Move over to Linux and it's find the program you want. Find the program in storage which downloads the program you want. Click this and that, job done. Both complicated in their own way. One well known. the other, Linux, not so. Like talking French when everyone is expecting German. But here's the rub. No-one's actually saying how to do anything, in English. Unless you fancy listening to an endless diatribe of how wonderful Linux is. which invariably is intertwined in any explanation, which is what every explanation amounts to. I already know I did something wrong. I clicked this or didn't click that. The problem is, I have no idea. There are no checks. It isn't clear. The titles of the various tools and processes are obscure or obtuse. If I were 30 or 40 years younger I might dive in there. Now I'm looking for things to do. (You may hate working and dread Monday mornings, but have you any idea of how utterly boring retirement is? ) Time was I loved a challenge. That's why I was once a whizz with a soldering iron. I once learnt FORTH just for the fun of it. Now, I'm looking for a decent OS so I can do the rounds of the various social sites such as CIT. Then a spell on my online games. Then send off a few emails ranting about the modern world. Finally, into sleep mode so I can watch NCIS on the telly before a check at my emails and then sit in bed reading Muriel Spark. I respect you mikkh as I do ken. I'm not suggesting XP is better than W7, just that I own XP and don't own W7. I would never suggest Linux is faulty, it clearly isn't. But it is flawed, seriously and perhaps irreparably. That flaw is its inaccessibility. FORTH was a brilliant OS. Fast, much faster than BASIC could ever be. (It was compiled rather than interpreted). Easy, you enter Write and it writes. Enter Print and it prints. Enter Whistle Dixy and it whistles Dixy. How much simpler do you want? But it didn't catch on and was doomed to failure. Because it wasn't intuitive, there wasn't enough software, other than the most boring stuff. And it didn't do things the way BASIC did. If Linux really wants to catch on, it needs an interface like Windows. (Not just look like Windows). Load programs like windows. Use Program names that sound like Windows. It need to be what it is, a Windows alternative. Instead of this demonstration that someone is more clever than we are and now we need to go cap in hand, waiting our turn for the Lords of Linux to condescend to offer us meeklings an explanation. (For we we are suitably grateful). Do you understand what I mean? Linux is not faulty as such. You are not in the wrong. But its not what I or most others are used to. |
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