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Post by ken on Feb 17, 2009 19:54:10 GMT
Am I in the wrong group, I thought it was trying to add IDE devices that started this saga??
KC
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Post by roo on Feb 17, 2009 21:41:09 GMT
I am starting to think you must be on another planet . LOL Check posts 2, 3, 5, and 13 Elvis, What is the breed of motherboard. Did you try 'Load fail safe defaults in Bios. Maybe try Googling i.e Asrock 234567 motherboard , failure , problem and the like . incase others have had the same prob as you .
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 18, 2009 1:40:11 GMT
H! KC, ;D No you are in the right group ;D it did start as an IDE problem but then i decided to go SATA that's when it gets confusing
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 18, 2009 1:45:00 GMT
H! Roo, ;D The motherboard is a MSI and i cannot get in to the motherboard now and the monitor is not working just the power light flashing got to get tis sorted by Saturday, i don't think it's going to happen though
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Post by roo on Feb 18, 2009 5:02:55 GMT
The Power light probably should not be flashing . Thats what the hard drive indicator light should do when there is any hard drive activity.
Triple check that you have got those connections right !! Every man and his dog has probably stuffed them up at one time .
If that does'nt work, try moving your FSB jumpers to the next highest position ( See manual) . It should boot if the default is not correct, but maybe not .
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 18, 2009 15:13:58 GMT
Thanks Roo i will have a look later.
The motherboard is an MSI-P6NGM Series.
Thanks for your help ;D
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 18, 2009 15:50:07 GMT
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Post by roo on Feb 18, 2009 22:02:26 GMT
A few hints on whats happening, and whats not happening with it, will make it easier for me and anyone else : ) to try and help .
Have you checked the Troubleshooting section of your manual ?
If its not booting, remove the drives and one stick of ram, if you have 2 ,and try that. Then try with the other ram stick. If no go, unscrew the board from the case and slip some paper , cardboard or a good insulator under it and try again . That will show if the board had been shorting to the case .
If no go try another power supply, if you can. Set Bios to load Fail Safe defaults if you can get into it .
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 19, 2009 1:11:12 GMT
H! Roo, ;D Yes well i have not done anything today as i had to go to the doctors and do other things so i will let you know tomorrow / today I did have a look for the FSB in the manual but i can't find it Thanks
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 19, 2009 14:11:39 GMT
H! Roo, ;D
Not had a look in the "Troubleshooting section of your manual" yet.
"one stick of ram, if you have 2 ,and try that" i did try that about a week ago.
"If its not booting, remove the drives one stick of ram, if you have 2 ,and try that" I will give this a try later.
Thanks
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Post by ken on Feb 19, 2009 15:44:38 GMT
As long as you haven't altered any jumpers on the motherboard, there is no reason to touch them Elvis. Just in case you have done something you shouldn't have in the BIOS, take the battery out for a few seconds and put it back. That will put you back on default settings. If you have got a keyboard fault it wont boot anyway, unless you can get into BIOS and alter them to boot on *No Errors*. Without a working keyboard you wont get into the BIOS anyway. Just trying to add IDE to a SATA rig, shouldn't have caused any of the trouble you have got now. All it should have done was set the IDE first in the Boot Order. Then all you needed to do was set it to Disabled. There isn't any need to touch any jumpers on the motherboard. The only jumper is on the hard drive and that should be set to Master. Even if it was set to slave, it wouldn't cause any of the trouble you are having now. Its like you have disturbed something that was a bit loose. There is nothing that can disconnect a PS2 keyboard, short of breaking the motherboard.
KC
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Post by roo on Feb 19, 2009 20:36:23 GMT
Good to see you back on the case, Ken . ;D
Elvis , Before you said which model board you had, i had guessed wrongly that you had the P6NG Neo, and i downloaded the manual for that . That board has FSB changing jumpers. It probably would have booted if the jumper was incorrect but i thought it might be worth a try, hoping to find an easy to try, quick fix solution .
The only time i have fooled with SATA drives is when i built my latest creation : ) It has a new Sata Hdd and new Sata DVD burner . I also installed my old IDE hard drive and DVD burner.
I just switched it on and it worked , leaving me very impressed with the ease in which Sata drives install.
Shame you not all grinned up about yours, so far .
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 19, 2009 20:39:52 GMT
H! KC, ;D
Only got one Jumper and that's the cosmos jumper i did check all the connectors today thy all seem OK. i have tyred three keyboards nothing?
All i get is a dead keyboard, a flashing power light on my monitor and all the fans are working.
I have no jumper on my SATA hardrive.
Thanks
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 20, 2009 14:27:31 GMT
H! ;D Well i found out what the problem was with the Keyboard ;D it was a bent pin i never thort to look at the connector ;D I got the computer to boot up and i got in to the bios and put it on Load fail safe defaults and restarted went into the bios again and changed the boot order to dvd first. Started to install XP and just got past the formatting and up came this (see piccy) I have not tried to do anything more yet
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Post by ken on Feb 20, 2009 14:27:31 GMT
I was referring to the IDE drive Elvis. There's not any jumpers on SATA hard drives, theres one on SATA II that cuts it from 3 gig transfer to 1.5 gig the same as SATA. They will work every time, with or without the jumper.
I'm beginning to think that either your primary memory module has gone for a ball of chalk, or the graphics card has. Taking the modules out and putting another one in the primary slot will answer the first question and another card will answer the second. If you have got an old PCI graphics card, it would at least tell you if the fault is in PCI-E card. You would need to take out the PCI-E card, put in the PCI card and then take the batterey out for a few seconds. Then the BIOS should default to the available card.
KC
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Post by ken on Feb 20, 2009 14:29:24 GMT
A bent pin will do it every time Elvis.
KC
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Post by ken on Feb 20, 2009 14:36:37 GMT
I can see a black square Elvis, but not whats written on it.
KC
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 20, 2009 14:58:04 GMT
H! KC, If you click on the Piccy it will enlarge it? or it should
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 21, 2009 1:46:22 GMT
H! KC,
Did you click on the piccy?
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Post by ken on Feb 21, 2009 18:05:03 GMT
Yeah I have read it now Elvis. Do you still have the IDE hard drive in the computer?? Its complaining about some new hardware and its probably the drive if it's still there. Is it showing in My Computer??? If not right click My Computer, Manage, Disk Management. Right click on the drive select Change Drives letters and it will suggest a letter. Simply click on Add. Then it will hopefully work OK, or it wont. At least you will know you have set it up alright. It might just be a bit moany about having the extra drive and it will get over it.
KC
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 23, 2009 11:45:11 GMT
H! KC,
No I have no IDE hardrive or IDE DVD i have no IDE stuff what so ever in this computer it's all SATA and i cannot get windows installed on the computer i will try disconnecting the Hardrive and DVD just to see what happens ;D
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Post by ken on Feb 23, 2009 13:19:07 GMT
I presume you mean to go back to the basic new rig Elvis. If everything is SATA or SATA II, the only thing I can think of that could give you bother is the DATA cables. They have to be dead smooth with nice rounded curves. Put a kink in one and it wont work properly. Often it is best to have cables with a 90º plug on one end, they can give you a better lead at times. Its daft; you can have a 90º bend in a plug, but not in the cable itself. I thought you were adding IDE stuff; but if its all SATA, there is nothing you need to do. It a case of just plug it in. The CD needs to be the primary boot and the hard drive where you want the system as second boot. With multi SATA disks, its not important which one you put the system on. It has to be in the boot order though.
KC
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 23, 2009 20:26:07 GMT
H! KC, Yes i know about the SATA cables i will have a look and make sure ;D Well at least i can get into the bios know ;D Well when i turned it on i just got this, but i now what it is so thats OK NTLDR is missing Press CTRL+ALT+DEL going to leave it for now give it a go later
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 24, 2009 14:14:05 GMT
EUREKA I say while i am huging a tree, i think i have done it i just got XP on my Computer ;D i have turned it off and on a few times and it seems to be ok now i have just got to get SP1,2,3 on I will let you know how it goes later
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Post by ken on Feb 24, 2009 14:19:06 GMT
Well done Elvis, I knew you would get there in the end.
KC
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 24, 2009 15:08:34 GMT
H! KC, Don't speck to soon i have to put SP1.2.3 on i think i may look into slipstreaming them I will get back to you ;D
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 24, 2009 15:27:23 GMT
Or may be i will buy a copy from Ebay with XP SP1,2,3, already on the disk ;D
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Post by ken on Feb 24, 2009 18:51:31 GMT
If you use n-Lite Elvis, slipstreaming is really easy to do.
KC
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Post by elvisuk on Feb 25, 2009 2:31:37 GMT
Thanks KC i shall have a look at the link i have ;D
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Post by ken on Feb 25, 2009 13:28:54 GMT
If you need any advice on using nLite, you know where I am.
Myself I would put SP1 in and save to HDD, then put that ISO into nLite again and then put SP2 in. By doing them seperate there is less chance of a screw up than doing them all at once. It only takes an extra few minutes and you will be sure of a good disk when you burn it.
KC
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